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Nov 07 2008

Ford and GM: the edge of the abyss

Hilton Holloway

This afternoon Ford and GM released their long-awaited figures for the third quarter of 2008.

The news couldn’t be more apocalyptic. General Motors is on the verge of collapse and may not have enough cash to operate beyond the end of this year, according to its financial report.

Recently, I suggested that barring a disaster, GM would take over the Chrysler Group. Well that disaster is here.

According to the reports GM needs $11bn in ready money every month to pay its bills. GM’s own just-released ‘liquidity statement’ admitted that it will definitely not have enough money in the first six months of next year to continue trading. And that’s if it gets to January 1 2009.

Unsurprisingly, the takeover talks with Chrysler have been halted.

Ford, meanwhile lost a modest $129m in the third quarter, but managed to burn through $7.7bn in cash. Analysts say that Ford, too, will run out of cash in the middle of 2009. Ford bosses counter that they hope they can scrimp and save through to the end of 2009, hoping for an upturn in the economy.

With no more credit for the companies, all eyes are now on the US Government – and President-elect Barak Obama – to see whether money can be found to keep GM alive beyond the middle of 2009.

Ford only has six months’ more breathing space. Chrysler, meanwhile, is heading fast for the knackers yard.

There’s no way all three carmakers can be bailed out, when their markets have been decimated. It might seem unimaginable, but by next summer the ‘Big Three’ could have all either collapsed or been forced in Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

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About Hilton Holloway

Has two product design degrees and used to design mountain bikes. Realised that cars were a lot more interesting in 1990, and has been writing about them ever since.

Comments

theonlydt November 7, 2008 6:33 PM

Ford America are paying for failing to bring better quality European designed cars into their market (Mondeo, proper focus (not the one they did) and relying on the F150 when all common sense told you that eventually oil prices would seal its fate.

GM have probably been even worse; though their worst decisions seem to be based around the other US companies they own, or have bought up. Saturn and all the others compete with each other and some have bled GM dry.

Chrysler; deserved to go under a few years ago - the Daimler tie up kept them going a little while, but without a large cash injections and cars tailored for the current market; they've had it.

horseandcart November 7, 2008 6:34 PM

The United States is at a rate of knots turning into the old Soviet Union. There'll be a state car sector, GM and Ford for Lada and Zil and a state mortgage company, Fannie and Freddie, a state bank, Goldman Sachs...you get the idea. And before you laugh, Britain is in the same boat, JLR nationalised?, LloydsTSBHBoS, etc..

horseandcart November 7, 2008 6:54 PM

this from Bloonberg just:

'GMAC LLC, the auto lender 49 percent owned by GM, said Nov. 4 it had a record $2.5 billion loss as borrowers from its mortgage unit fell behind on their loans. The Detroit-based finance company said its Residential Capital home-loan division may not survive the housing crisis.

GMAC is 51 percent owned by group led by Cerberus Capital Management LP, owner of Chrysler.'

Jesus. So GM's finance arm was in effect a bank, doing liar-loan mortgages. And now Cerberus, the 80% owner of Chrysler is down billions just from its one holding in GMAC. The US is screwed. At least a few Wall Street hedge funder lowlifes at Cerberus Capital Mgt. will be wiped out along with the tens of thousands of blue collar auto workers in Michigan put on the scrapheap.

theop November 7, 2008 7:42 PM

The bloomberg piece link:

www.bloomberg.com/.../news

$73bn in losses since 2004

25million jobs are directly affected when GM goes bust (its not an if anymore....)

Keeping it to a fundamental (if only sad) reality.... Thats what happens when your product is mediocre and your management bad.

AND you are not in the business you should be on as horseandcart mentions....

TheStig November 7, 2008 8:08 PM

I think Ford should completely abandon its American branch as this is what makes Ford so close to bankruptcy. Keeping it endangers Ford's very successful European branch. If Ford Europe was to go as a result of all this it would be a big loss for the motoring world.

jerry99 November 8, 2008 8:53 AM

I hope Ford does manage to pull something off.

If they don't we in Europe will lose the only mass manufacturer still committed to providing an enjoyable drive. The USA will lose the one homegrown manaufacturer that has a chance to sell the best European designs to Americans as they downsize.

We would all also ending up paying more for our cars with these big players out of the market. It was the abilities of the Focus and recent Astra that stopped VW pricing its Mk V Golf as high as it wished in Germany and than Europe.

Fantic SuperT November 10, 2008 1:11 PM

Chapter 11 - no thanks. Who's going to buy a new car if the manufacturer is likely to run away from warranty claims?

Steak Bake November 10, 2008 10:23 PM

Chrysler will be history very soon

GM and Ford will never die - the government simply wont let them but they will have to slim down which threatens the existence of brands like Cadillac and SAAB

2010 Will see the Motor Industry as follows

GM, Ford, Toyota, Honda, Renault Nissan, VW Group, Fiat and PSA - the major volume players with some luxury brands

BMW and Mercedes will survive as sole luxury brands and everyone else will be owned by one of the surviving VOLUME players or they will be gone

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