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Oct 10 2008

Nissan GT-R vs Porsche

Peter Nunn

Clearly, the Germans were not best pleased when Nissan turned up at the Nurburgring in a GT-R this April, clocked a blistering 7m 29 secs lap time and then told the world about it. 031612600_1203517196

It’s taken a while but recent grumblings from Porsche that the GT-R can’t have been standard, or at least didn’t have normal tyres, have provoked a strong fightback from Nissan which has insisted that a) yes, the car definitely was Japanese market standard, b) ran on spec Dunlop SP Sport 600 DSST CTT tyres, c) was timed around the Ring using the exact same methodology as Germany’s Sport Auto Magazine and d) was actually carrying 50kgs extra weight for video and data recording…

Mein Gott. The fact that Porsche then claimed to have timed the GT-R itself against the GT2 and 911 Turbo around the Green Hell, and found the 7.29 wonder car to be 25 seconds slower produced waves of astonishment, even ridicule.

Maybe it all goes back to 1995 when Nissan claimed to have cracked the 8 mins 'Ring record with an R33 Skyline GT-R. To this day, there are rumours as to how “standard” it really was, which is perhaps why Nissan has bent over backwards this time to refute the cheating claims. 006612600_1203516861

But anyway, apart from tweaking Porsche's nose, what’s the big deal for Nissan labouring to make the GT-R so fast around the Ring?

“Circuits like the Nurburgring and Sendai in Japan have been used extensively for the testing of GT-R not for the sake of setting records, but as the most challenging courses in the world recognized by consumers and manufacturers as the acid-test of a true supercar," comments Nissan spokesperson, Simon Sproule.

Privately, though, company insiders are both bemused and flattered that Nissan’s caused such a shock wave in the supercar performance world with the new Godzilla.

Just wait until the lighter, powered-up GT-R Spec V comes out…..

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About Peter Nunn

Left UK to work in Japan in 1988. Lives in Tokyo, covering the Japanese car industry. Owns two Mazdas; would love a Land Rover Defender, if only it would fit in his parking space.

Comments

mr blobby October 10, 2008 1:12 PM

Interesting

A clear demonstration that perhaps Porsche has taken its 'eye of the ball' when it comes to core product.

If it'd focused more on 911 and less on Cayenne & Panamera, then perhaps they could still claim the 'Ring crown.

Porsche can blame nobody else but itself; and to accuse Nissan of cheating lacks credibility and shows the level of internal frustration.

Zeddy October 11, 2008 10:52 AM

Allegedly Nissan offered free driver training for Porsche if it wants to do a second test.  LOL

TheOmegaMan October 12, 2008 7:12 AM

I think Porsche were right. That Nissan lap looked fishy.

chuckie_T October 13, 2008 11:56 AM

I'm pretty sure Autocar and other good car mags did a GTR vs 911 turbo vs GT2 test.  And the GTR manage 1 - 1.5 seconds quicker than the 911 and GT2.. on a small track that took a miniute and a bit to complete.

If the 911 Turbo does the ring in 7.38 and the GT2 does it in 7.34 and we can assume the GTR can increase its lead by an average of 1 - 1.5 seconds per minute on a the ring, then sureley the GTR can manage a time of 7.29 or even better.

I know my theory has its flaws but think about it.

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