Autocar - First for car news and reviews

Advertisement

Top bloggers

Advertisement

Fri
Oct 17 2008

Speed kills?

Andrew Frankel

Speed kills. We know this because it's the mantra constantly being rammed down our throats by everyone from road safety lobbyists past the police to the government itself.

M42 So why, then, has that same government decided to raise the speed limit for drivers using the hard shoulder of the M42 during periods of peak congestion?

Because, despite the fact that motorway hard shoulders are well known to be incredibly dangerous, when the Highways Agency conducted a trial, it discovered that the higher limit (60mph instead of 50mph) had 'no discernible impact on safety'.

What the Government has just discovered is something that responsible, informed and enthusiast drivers have known from day one: speed doesn't kill at all, only its inappropriate use.

The distinction is critical. You can drive past the school gates at 30mph at chucking-out time and, while you may be lethally dangerous, you are not breaking the law and no-one will try to stop you.

But drive a modern car at 85mph down a dry and lightly populated motorway and you'll find yourself ranged against a vast arsenal of ever more sophisticated, expensive and tax-payer funded infrastructures with no discretion, designed to entrap, fine and criminalise you and, if you are an habitual offender, remove you from the road altogether.

What is needed is some simple common sense. Our motorway system is now so covered in electronic display boards that applying and communicating speed limits that vary according to conditions is easy.

When it's foggy, snowing or pouring with rain, who'd argue against a sane, commensurate and temporary reduction in speed limit and its legal enforcement?

Similarly if the sun is out, and the traffic is light, why not let us tootle along at 85mph without fear of recrimination?

It seems like a moderate and measured approach that uses our investment not simply to penalise and tax motorists, but to help us too. Do you think it will ever happen? No, neither do I.

 

Sign-in or register to add your comments

About Andrew Frankel

Talents are limited to "driving cars and writing English." In 19th century France he would, therefore, have been stuffed; as it is, Andrew's the perfect Autocar road test writer.

Comments

horseandcart October 17, 2008 10:13 AM

All these speed sign gantries and associated gatso cameras hidden behind may explain why Old Bill had tens and tens of millions of pounds of British citizens' money piled up in a rock in the North Atlantic - Iceland. Oh well, easy come, easy go.

Speed kills, so does financial ruin.

RobotBoogie October 17, 2008 10:36 AM

I think the issue that people who are pro-higher speed limits on motorways and elsewhere always fail to take into account is that speed limits are inevitably aimed at the lowest common denominator driver.

An experienced, alert, well-rested driver aged 25-40 with say 15 years experience on the roads and a clean licence behind the wheel of a new car is probably OK to do 85mph down a dry, lightly used motorway in good light. But any new licence holder or a tired 75 year old with poor eyesight and reaction times measurable using a sundial bombing along in at night in the rain uisng a 25 year old supermini probably isn't.

Introducing a practical law that differentiates the two is next to impossible, and possibly not even desirable.

RobotBoogie October 17, 2008 10:41 AM

Can I delete "at night in the rain" from the above and add "in the same conditions"? Got a bit carried away.

coolGav October 17, 2008 11:46 AM

What I find strange is that I can legally drive at 60mph along twisty, narrow, seemingly unmaintained roads (eg some B-classification ones) that have no footpaths.  Yet when I get to a straighter, wider road with a footpath (eg A-classification), be 'limited' to 40mph at times. Talking this on a stage to motorways, shouldn't they have a 20mph limit? Motorways are wider, better visibility, have no sharp corners, a hard shoulder to stop on in an emergency and flowing junctions.

RobotBoogie October 17, 2008 11:49 AM

I can answer that one - country roads are essentially classified as unpoliceable - ie that the boys in blue don't and never will have the manpower to enforce speed limits on them. It's a resources decision - they are better off trying to reduce speeds on busy urban roads where more accidents happen.

Scottish Scrutineer October 17, 2008 1:34 PM

In France, they have for many years had varying speed limits for poor conditions on the peages. 130kph in the dry and 110kph if wet. It makes sense.

RobotBoogie,

can I remind you that these are <b> limits</b>, not compulsory targets, so the driver of the older vehicle is perfectly entitled to drive at a speed suitable for thier vehicle/conditions/ability. They do not have to sit at 70mph.

Scottish Scrutineer October 17, 2008 1:34 PM

In France, they have for many years had varying speed limits for poor conditions on the peages. 130kph in the dry and 110kph if wet. It makes sense.

RobotBoogie,

can I remind you that these are <b> limits</b>, not compulsory targets, so the driver of the older vehicle is perfectly entitled to drive at a speed suitable for thier vehicle/conditions/ability. They do not have to sit at 70mph.

RobotBoogie October 17, 2008 5:02 PM

Sorry, Scrutineer, unsure about the point you are making. I think you might be suggesting that a driver of lower ability should take their own deficiencies into account and drive slower of their own accord? If people were made this way, we wouldn't need speed limits at all.

Vectra32 October 18, 2008 11:27 AM

Presumably the drive to increase speed limits is to allow motorist to reach their destination faster. From a personal observation, British lane discipline is some of the worst in Western Europe.  Clamping down on rude and inconsiderate driving would achieve far more than raising speed limits. Apart from shorter journey times, we would burn less fuel, put less stress on the infrastructure, and arrive far less stressed.

dillonsamben October 19, 2008 6:26 AM

Speed does kill, any speed can kill but it is the total ineptitude of the vast majority of drivers which is the real culprit.

For years and years and years I have very firmly believed that all drivers of no matter what age should have to sit a complete re-test of their driving skills every 5 years (at a maximum) with this test also involving a full medical as well.

If the government is to weak to insist on such a test then why can't the insurance companies group together and develop one.

If as a result there were more skilled drivers out on the road the result might be that speed wasn't seen to kill very often.

Never forget that in a high majority of accidents, the accident does not involve the vehicle which caused it in the first place !

jerry99 October 19, 2008 3:53 PM

The simple fact is that the higher the speed when a car crashes into anything the worse the injuries to those involved.

The problem is that various authorities tasked with making measurable decreases to injuries resulting from road accidents take the easy option of lowering speeds to reduce the consequences of the accidents rather than trying reducing the chances of an accident occuring (which is possible but takes much more effort).

This makes sense outside of a school but in many other sitautions it does not but our risk averse society increasingly demands it.

When I was a child the roads were mainly trafficed by salesmen and others driving as a key component of their livelihood. These occupations were regarded as risky in part simply beacuse they drove a lot and were therefore more likely to have an accident. Today everyone wants to drive (even just to the office or the shops) but many do not want to accept the risks associated with it.

Unless people are prepared to take on board the risks inherent in driving or seek alternative modes of transport with lower risk the pressure to cut vehicle speeds will continue to rise.

All about Autocar

Newsfeeds

Subscribe to our news with our RSS feeds

Advertise

To advertise with Autocar contact us

Buy our magazines

Discover our titles at themagazineshop.com

Autocar latest issue - Cover 07 Jan

NEW ISSUE OUT NOW

FAST, EASY & SECURE
SUBSCRIBE NOW>>